In the street or on the street!!!

     

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I’ve got a tricky question. How to say it grammatical: “I live in King Street” or “I live on King Street”?The first variant is in the “1art.vn Grammar in Use” by Raymond Murphy, Cambridge University Press and the second one is in the “Preposition Practice” by L.L.Keane, Longman Publishing Group.


Hi Andrey

In American 1art.vn, we would say “I live on King Street”.

I think people in the UK use either “in” or “on” in such a sentence..


Hi,

Out of interest there is a song from the musical (which is American) My Fair Lady based on the play, Pygmalion by Bernard Shaw (who was Irish) where one of the main male characters sings of his infatuation for the principal female character, Eliza (who is 1art.vn):

I have often walked down this street beforeBut the pavement always stayed beneath my feet beforeAll at once am I several stories highKnowing I’m on the street where you live

How’s that for cooperation?

Alan


I’m not sure which size is more common in the north of England, but I would say that in the south of England you would usually hear e.g. “I live in King Street”; though “on” is sometimes used with “the High Street” (or, in the West Country, “Fore St”), e.g.

1a. I live on the High Street, just past the Odeon.1b. I live on Willesden High Street, just past the Odeon.

“On” is also sometimes used with roads whose name indicates their function or character, e.g.

I live on the London Road.I live on Chesil Rise.

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I would probably also use “on” for “streets” of Roman origin, e.g.

I used lớn live on Watling Street, just outside St Albans.

MrP


Alan September 16, 2008, 7:39am #5

Hi,

To me ‘in’ is the favoured preposition associated with ‘living’ referring to lớn the name of a road,lane.street or whatever. Khổng lồ my mind ‘on’ with those words suggests objects physically situated there such as buildings,premises, obstacles, roadworks & so on or indeed following along those routes. I would therefore live in Acacia Avenue, travel lớn work on the B456 sometimes when there were roadworks on the A1 motorway.

Alan


Yankee September 16, 2008, 11:49am #6

Thanks for the detailed input, MrP and Alan.

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Returning to Andrey’s question, both “in” and “on” are grammatically correct in your sentence. To sum everything up, Raymond Murphy is British, and L.L. Keane is American – that’s why they use different prepositions in that particular sentence..


MrPedantic September 16, 2008, 10:11pm #7
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Alan:

I would therefore live in Acacia Avenue, travel to work on the B456 sometimes when there were roadworks on the A1 motorway.

Hello Alan,

Would you travel khổng lồ work on King St, though?

MrP


Molly September 16, 2008, 11:21pm #8
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MrPedantic:

Hello Alan,

Would you travel to lớn work on King St, though?

MrP

You might travel to work on Avenida Rivadavia, BA. If you live và work on that street, for example.


Nessie September 17, 2008, 2:52am #9

I’m not sure which form is more common in the north of England, but I would say that in the south of England you would usually hear e.g. “I live in King Street”; though “on” is sometimes used with “the High Street” (or, in the West Country, “Fore St”), e.g.

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Hi MrP,I still can’t understand why we use ‘in’ when there is not the article ‘the’, và ‘on’ when there is:‘I live in King Street’‘I live on the High Street’

To me ‘in’ is the favoured preposition associated with ‘living’ referring khổng lồ the name of a road,lane.street or whatever. Khổng lồ my mind ‘on’ with those words suggests objects physically situated there such as buildings,premises, obstacles, roadworks và so on or indeed following along those routes. I would therefore live in Acacia Avenue, travel lớn work on the B456 sometimes when there were roadworks on the A1 motorway.

Hi Alan,Could you think of other context (other than ‘living’) in which ‘in the street’ is used?And, I don’t understand ‘physically situated there such as buildings,premises, obstacles, roadworks & so on’ very well. Buildings, obstacles, and roadworks are surely phisical, but what about ‘premise’? I don’t think it’s physical…

By the way, what vày you think about these: (I find them in the OALD - 7th edition)